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Why Bill is right and Glenn is wrong.

Posted by Brian Epps on February 1, 2012

Mitt Romney inserted his foot, heel and toes, into his mouth and bit down hard today:
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Glenn Reynolds, bending over backwards in an attempt to be fair, said this:

Frankly, I think he’s got a point. People whose livelihood comes from the government — whether the very poor, or the government employees — are doing fine. It’s people who depend on the actual economy who are hurting.

Bill Quick was -er- quick to respond:

Sorry, but only somebody who doesn’t know anybody whose family has been living on the government dole for two or three generations could make such a stunningly ignorant statement about the “very poor.” They are not “doing fine.”

In this case I think Bill is right and Glenn is wrong.  The very poor have to spend more, as a percentage of their income, on food and transportation than those better off.  When one considers the fact that gas and food prices have risen dramatically in the last three years with no end in sight,  I’d say that there is reason to be concerned about the very poor.

While income inequality has dropped in recent years in dollars, in terms of actual buying power, the poor have had their incomes slashed by Obama’s inflation tax on necessities.  Even if one wants to get out of the hole and off the dole, the path to self-reliance has had caltrops tossed on it with the increase in minimum wage and the current policies that discourage hiring, especially on the low-wage, low-skill level most of the very poor are qualified for.

Sorry, Glenn.  The very poor people on the dole have to live in the same economy as the rest of us, and they are getting more and more trapped by an economy that lowers their effective income and keeps them from working.

Romney thinks the poor are doing fine because of a safety net?   That’s only true in a world where the poor don’t eat, drive, or try to find work so they can stop being poor.

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4 Responses to “Why Bill is right and Glenn is wrong.”

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  2. Al Miller said

    We forget hat most of endemic poverty is due to attitude and intellectual deficit. These poor are not going to rise out of poverty know matter what enlightened philosophy is put in place and the few ho would will never vote for Romney. This the The Democratic core and Romney would waste his edge with the GOP core to pander to them.

  3. Nobody said

    I think this misses a point – when Romney is addressing the “very poor” he is addressing it from the point of view of what government is going to do for them – read assistance – more food stamps, more welfare, etc. What his real answer should have been is the need to create opportunity to get out of poverty, not make poverty comfortable, but that is Romney – he is just faking it. But within the context of just providing more assistance to the poor, I think his answer is legitimate. Yes, you could go on about inflation, its effect on the poor and seniors, but that is Romney – he isn’t that good.

    But I’m with Glenn, he has a point.

  4. instugator said

    By any objective measure, America’s poor aren’t. See the Heritage Foundations report on poverty in America. Heck even read the NYT. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/19/us/census-measures-those-not-quite-in-poverty-but-struggling.html?pagewanted=all

    This quote from the report is the money line:

    Robert Rector, an analyst at the conservative Heritage Foundation, rejects the phrase “near poverty,” arguing that it conjures levels of dire need like hunger and homelessness experienced by a minority even among those actually poor.

    “I don’t have any objection to this measure if you use the term ‘low-income,’ ” he said. “But the emotionally charged terms ‘poor’ or ‘near poor’ clearly suggest to most people a level of material hardship that doesn’t exist. It is deliberately used to mislead people.”

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